[Craig Muhonen]

Admit it, you opened yourself up to this scrutiny.

Bob wrote:
I have spent a large part of my career working in AI. I agree with the concerns in the following videos:

Note that the susceptibility to AI Psychosis increases with other coincident brain injuries and mental health issues.

"Brain injuries" and "mental health" problems? That is a direct statement about me and Ernie in that order, like we are diminished, and can't adjust.
To degrade a disabled Vietnam Veteran, especially on Veterans day, exposed to agent orange and then, "killed" again by a load of granite slabs falling on his head,
and then a Naturalized American Citizen, born in Argentina with strong family values, and YOU say has mental health problems,
and a heart condition from childhood that required massive surgery to replace it recently,
you will apologize to both of us, or show your TRUE self to everyone.


And SUSCEPTIBILITY ? Who would that be, you who have been in AI most of your career, or us who are just learning AI as a valuable tool.

Out of all the videos on AI, you pick three "Radicals" from San Francisco.

1st video is:

Dr. Joseph Pierre: San Francisco progressive.
Writings, public commentary, and online activity strongly align with progressive left-leaning perspectives, often critiquing conservative figures, policies, and ideologies while emphasizing themes like social justice, science-based public health, and anti-authoritarianism.
Theme Examples from Dr. Pierre's Work Implied Alignment Criticism of Trump & Republicans- Calls Trump's immigration policies
"the Trump regime's gestapo."
- Mocks Trump's vaccine misinformation and AI excuses.
- Warns of Trump's authoritarianism, referencing fascism and kleptocracy.
- Highlights RFK Jr.'s anti-science moves under Trump as "folly and ineptitude."
--Dr. Kruse leverages Trump's public persona—drawn from speeches, tweets, interviews, and policy decisions—to demystify ADHD, showing it's not just "hyperactivity" but a spectrum of "executive function deficits" in the brain.

2nd video is:

Coding with Dee, also from San Francisco. 12K views but won't give her last name. She is a programmer, with massive amounts of merch for sale.

3rd video is:

Dr. John Kruse: San Francisco Progressive. 14K views.
He is also an author, with his 2019 book Recognizing Adult ADHD:
What Donald Trump Can Teach Us About Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder using public examples of the former president's behaviors to illustrate ADHD symptoms.
John is openly gay, married with college-age twins, an avid marathon runner (over 100 completed), and a former president of the San Francisco Front Runners LGBTQ+ running club.

Most comments were like this:

"AI isn’t driving people insane — it just gave them a mirror. They were already halfway there long before it showed up".

AI is just going to mirror the person making the prompts. Garbage in, garbage out.

Cyberpsychosis is already here.

We forget how many people used to be locked up in mental institutions before mental institutions were eliminated.

This one is the real truth about AI, it is just an incredible tool.

My husband had a serious accident and fractured his spine. The doctors were no help beyond diagnosis and had no interest in treating him and supporting him through recovery so he used AI to create a treatment plan. He input his imaging reports and it designed a diet and exercise program to address it. He is the healthiest he has ever been now.

[Bob Kuczewski]

"Brain injuries" and "mental health" problems? That is a direct statement about me and Ernie in that order, like we are diminished, and can't adjust.
To degrade a disabled Vietnam Veteran, especially on Veterans day, exposed to agent orange and then, "killed" again by a load of granite slabs falling on his head,
and then a Naturalized American Citizen, born in Argentina with strong family values, and YOU say has mental health problems,
and a heart condition from childhood that required massive surgery to replace it recently,
you will apologize to both of us, or show your TRUE self to everyone.

Do you think it "diminishes" or "degrades" a blind person to let them know that they're about to walk into a clothesline at neck level? Or do you think it would be less "degrading" to just sit back and watch them injure themselves?

The warnings about AI induced psychosis are valid for everyone. Some are more susceptible than others. If the shoe fits ...

[Craig Muhonen]

"Brain injuries" and "mental health" problems? That is a direct statement about me and Ernie in that order, like we are diminished, and can't adjust.
To degrade a disabled Vietnam Veteran, especially on Veterans day, exposed to agent orange and then, "killed" again by a load of granite slabs falling on his head,
and then a Naturalized American Citizen, born in Argentina with strong family values, and YOU say has mental health problems,
and a heart condition from childhood that required massive surgery to replace it recently,
you will apologize to both of us, or show your TRUE self to everyone.

Do you think it "diminishes" or "degrades" a blind person to let them know that they're about to walk into a clothesline at neck level? Or do you think it would be less "degrading" to just sit back and watch them injure themselves?

The warnings about AI induced psychosis are valid for everyone. Some are more susceptible than others. If the shoe fits ...

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You really are an AI "Wizard".

You expose yourself as being involved with AI for most of your career at the "Neuroscience" level,
so you go from my TBI and Ernie's supposed mental health issues, (and we all have 'shadows'),
to diminishing "Blind People"?.
And in your, obviously biased, "AI" opinions, you say:
"AI induced psychosis are valid for everyone",
and I say,
including "Wizards".

Last Words?

[Craig Muhonen]

Salute to a veteran Hang Glider Pilot.

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One Bad Hawk.

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Gotcha.

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You Talkn' Yo Me?

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You Lookm' in the eye.

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[Bob Kuczewski]

Note that the susceptibility to AI Psychosis increases with other conincident brain injuries and mental health issues.

"Brain injuries" and "mental health" problems? That is a direct statement about me and Ernie in that order, like we are diminished, and can't adjust.
To degrade a disabled Vietnam Veteran, especially on Veterans day, exposed to agent orange and then, "killed" again by a load of granite slabs falling on his head,
and then a Naturalized American Citizen, born in Argentina with strong family values, and YOU say has mental health problems,
and a heart condition from childhood that required massive surgery to replace it recently,
you will apologize to both of us, or show your TRUE self to everyone.

You expose yourself as being involved with AI for most of your career at the "Neuroscience" level,
so you go from my TBI and Ernie's supposed mental health issues, (and we all have 'shadows'),
to diminishing "Blind People"?.

Craig, you seem to be both misquoting me and drawing inappropriate conclusions from what I've written. So let's take it step by step.

First, I haven't said anything about you or Ernie regarding you being "diminished" or unable to "adjust". Show me a quote. I also haven't degraded you or Ernie other than to state the specifics of what you've actually done (and admitted). And don't try to wrap yourself in the flag of being a veteran. I respect your service, but that doesn't excuse what you've done on this forum (in fact, it makes it even more shameful because you should know better).

Second, I believe that prolonged discussions with AI Chatbots can lead any person astray. If you've watched the videos, you'll note that they emphasize that the AI Chatbots tend to confirm and affirm whatever the human says. This leads to divergence from reality and convergence toward whatever the human WANTS to believe. In that sense, it's a form of "gaslighting". That's true for all brains - healthy or not.

Third, you yourself have told me many times about your traumatic brain injury, and you seem to be bringing that injury into focus in your recent posts. I don't know the details of your injury, and I'm not qualified to assess how it might have affected you. I'm similarly unable to assess Ernie's mental capabilities (healthy or not). Until recently, I have always assumed that you were both healthy enough for participation here on U.S. Hawks.

Fourth, the videos do say that the adverse effects of over-exposure to AI Chatbots can be more severe for people with brain injuries or mental disorders.

Fifth, since I am not qualified to assess your own brain disorders (or anyone else's), I cannot assess whether that means you are in the more susceptible case or not. So while I do feel that AI Chatbots can be harmful to everyone, I ultimately stated "If the shoe fits ..." which is a shortened version of "if the shoe fits, wear it". The meaning is quite obvious: if you feel this applies to you (it fits), then heed the caution (wear it), and if not, don't. So the statement leaves any such assessment up to yourselves (you or Ernie). Yet you seem to have inappropriately interpreted that as being degrading to you and/or Ernie. That's a faulty conclusion.

Sixth, your statement that I've "diminished blind people" would indicate that you may not be able to properly grasp the meaning behind simple analogies. However, it's also possible that you are intentionally and maliciously defaming me by saying that I "diminished blind people" when that is not true. I cannot tell which is the case, but I have my suspicions.

So that brings up a dilemma for us here at the U.S. Hawks. This forum is a place for people to share information about hang gliding. We expect a degree of capacity to understand normal discussions. We also expect a degree of sincerity in what people say. In your case, I am not sure if you lack the ability to understand and hold normal discussions, or if you lack the sincerity that people expect and deserve on this forum. In either case, it seems that this forum may not be a good fit for you. As a result, I issued a temporary ban on your username while I attended the La Jolla Shores Association meeting earlier this evening. I've already lifted that ban, but I am not sure which decision is correct. My intuition tells me that your recent posts are both insincere and malicious, but I am still giving you the benefit of the doubt.

So let me ask you directly, Craig. Do you feel that your mental capacity and your sincerity are an appropriate fit for the U.S. Hawks? I'm not trying to put you on the spot, so please feel free to answer me by personal message or email if you feel that's more appropriate. Thanks.

Also, one more slightly unrelated point. You seem to have adopted the use of the [quote] tag for your own comments which are not actually quotes. That is very confusing and even misleading to people who expect a quote block to be a quote and not an original first-time statement. So please stop using quote blocks inappropriately. You also seem to be using color and larger font sizes for virtually all of your statements. It's certainly reasonable to use such font effects for things that you want to highlight, but it is distracting to write entire posts in larger fonts or colors. It turns out that people can adjust their own web browsers to make normal text appear at the proper size and color for their screen and eyesight. By highlighting large portions of your posts with large fonts and bright colors, you make more work for people who want to read a series of posts in a manner most comfortable for them. Please be considerate. Thanks in advance.

[Bob Kuczewski]

Brief Thoughts on Malicious Speech

It seems appropriate at this time to discuss the issue of malicious speech on forums.

I have been using and managing forums for well over a decade now. For a long time, I expected that people would value their own dignity to the point that they would steer clear of obviously anti-social behavior (like using foul language, spamming the forum with pornography, making obviously false statements, etc). I call this "self moderation", and my expectation has been largely correct. But there can be people who feel they have so little to lose that they are either unwilling or unable to exercise appropriate self moderation.

This is a very serious problem, and it's only come up about 3 times in the last 15 years of operating the U.S. Hawks. I've struggled with it because I believe so deeply in free speech. Indeed, some have criticized me for being too lenient with people whose obvious intent is to harm either the sport of hang gliding or one of our members or the U.S. Hawks itself.

I have to thank Joe Faust for pointing out that such bad actors are not really trying to exercise free speech. They are not speaking sincerely. They are not trying to convey an idea or thought. They are not trying to raise awareness of a problem to be solved. They are not trying to convince someone to chart a different course. Instead, they are using "speech" as a weapon with the explicit goal to harm others rather than to inform them or influence them. In my opinion, that is no longer speech, and it has no place here on U.S. Hawks.

I know that some of Ernie's posts have been explicitly intended to do harm. Those posts have been removed, and Ernie has been placed on a series of temporary bans as a result. I suspect that Craig is similarly posting with the explicit intention to do harm. I sincerely hope they will both reconsider their behavior. It gives me no joy to use the moderation tools of this forum, but I will do so as needed to protect what we've all built with our decades of contributions. Please feel free to speak freely, but do not abuse your own speech as a weapon to harm others. Thank you.

[Craig Muhonen]

Bob says: "I suspect that Craig is similarly posting with the explicit intention to do harm".
The King Has One More Move.
https://youtube.com/shorts/j7_qXqHX5m8? ... ENDGa7SkTJ

[Bob Kuczewski]

Bob says: "I suspect that Craig is similarly posting with the explicit intention to do harm".
The King Has One More Move.

You continue to reveal yourself Craig. For example, you cherry picked one part of my quote and left out the other. Here's what I actually wrote with emphasis on what you left out:

I suspect that Craig is similarly posting with the explicit intention to do harm. I sincerely hope they will both reconsider their behavior.

Have you reconsidered your behavior Craig? As I said, I sincerely hope that's your next move. Time will tell.

Also, you never answered my direct question:

My intuition tells me that your recent posts are both insincere and malicious, but I am still giving you the benefit of the doubt.

So let me ask you directly, Craig. Do you feel that your mental capacity and your sincerity are an appropriate fit for the U.S. Hawks? I'm not trying to put you on the spot, so please feel free to answer me by personal message or email if you feel that's more appropriate. Thanks.