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Re: Coronavirus Pandemic (COVID-19)

Postby Bill Cummings » Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:12 pm

A new term has arrived now that the Covid19 virus is with us.
Before someone wants to be clever and apply it to a
particular person posting at the Hawks I’d like to remind
everyone about our policy concerning attack on members.
The new word is Covidiot
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Re: Coronavirus Pandemic (COVID-19)

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:16 pm

Two sides to every story ...

https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/31/the-real-coronavirus-chronology-shows-trump-was-on-top-of-it-while-biden-was-mocking-the-danger/:

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The Real Coronavirus Chronology Shows Trump Was On Top Of It While Biden Was Mocking The Danger

No media or Nancy Pelosi false narratives or phony Joe Biden campaign ad can change the truth about the real chronology of the coronavirus.

By Cleta Mitchell

The leftist national media incessantly reports that the spread of the coronavirus is, well, President Trump’s fault. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, always good for the most incendiary and least helpful comments in any difficult situation, said on Sunday, “[T]he president — his denial at the beginning was deadly.”

Then in Joe Biden’s latest effort to be relevant, his campaign has released an ad attacking President Trump for not being sufficiently responsive to the threats of the coronavirus from the “beginning.”

Here is a key fact: In the beginning, China lied. People died. Although the first case of the coronavirus was reported in Wuhan, China in early December 2019, the Chinese authorities continued through January 2020 to downplay the potential for the disease to spread.

The World Health Organization (WHO) reinforced China’s falsehoods, saying on Jan. 14 that “Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in Wuhan, China.” This was five to six weeks after the opposite was confirmed to be the case in Wuhan.

Biden’s supposed chronicle of Trump administration failures derides the president’s statement on Jan. 22, saying, “We have it totally under control, it is one person, coming in from China…” What was actually happening in the United States on Jan. 22? It was one person coming in from China. And the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) had yet to confirm the human-to-human spread of the virus.

So, what did we know? When did we know it?

On Jan. 17, the CDC and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced that American citizens returning from travel-restricted countries were being rerouted to specific airports, where they would be screened and isolated. CDC on that day also stated that, “based on current information, the risk from 2019-nCoV to the American public is currently deemed to be low.”

Japan, South Korea, and Thailand reported their first cases of novel coronavirus on Jan. 20.

On Jan. 21, the first case of coronavirus in the United States was reported, of a man who had traveled from Wuhan, China. That is the case President Trump referred to the next day

The Biden ad skips from Jan. 22 to Feb. 27, ignoring crucial developments during that time period.

Jan. 24: The CDC confirmed the second U.S. case of coronavirus, adding again that “based on what we know right now, the immediate risk to America remains low.”

Jan. 28: The WHO published another statement about the coronavirus, with a photograph and headline saying: “WHO, China leaders discuss next steps in battle against coronavirus outbreak.” Pictured are WHO Director-General Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus in Beijing with Chinese President Xi Jinping. According to the release, “The WHO delegation highly appreciated the actions China has implemented in response to the outbreak, its speed in identifying the virus and openness to sharing information with WHO and other countries.”

Think about that: On Jan. 28, the WHO praised China for its “speed and openness” in dealing with the virus. The same day, President Trump expanded U.S. airport screenings to identify travelers showing symptoms and instituted mandatory quarantines.

On Jan. 30, the WHO declared a global health emergency of international concern.

On Jan. 30, the CDC confirmed publicly for the first time the person-to-person spread of Wuhan virus and applauded WHO’s decision. That day, the president created the White House Coronavirus Task Force to coordinate efforts regarding this new disease.

The next day, Jan. 31, the president declared coronavirus a U.S. public health emergency and issued the ban on travel between the United States and China. On that same day, the Senate voted on the production of additional documents in the impeachment trial of President Trump. Campaigning in Iowa that day, Biden criticized President Trump’s China travel ban, saying during an Iowa campaign event, “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia.”

Feb. 4: The White House directed the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to step up coronavirus diagnostic testing procedures.

Feb. 5: The CDC issued a public statement saying, “While we continue to believe the immediate risk of 2019nCoV exposure to the general public is low, CDC is undertaking measures to help keep that risk low.”

Feb. 18: The CDC reaffirmed that the “risk to Americans from coronavirus is low.”

Feb. 20: The administration raised travel warnings to their highest level for Japan and South Korea.

It was not until Feb. 26 that the first case of suspected local transmission in the United States was announced by the CDC. President Trump that day named Vice President Pence to lead the Coronavirus Task Force. The next day, Feb. 27, Pence named Dr. Deborah Birx to serve as the White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator.

On Feb. 29, the first death from the coronavirus was recorded in the United States. On that date, President Trump halted travel with Iran.

On March 11, the WHO declared coronavirus a worldwide pandemic. The next day, on March 12, President Trump imposed travel restrictions on Europe and elsewhere. Biden criticized that decision also.

Then, on March 13, President Trump declared a national emergency.

If Pelosi believes the president should have done something at the beginning, when exactly does she think was the ‘beginning’? Was it during the impeachment proceedings that Pelosi instigated? Should Pelosi bear some responsibility for what she perceives as the president’s failure to focus on the coronavirus back in January?

The single most important step taken by President Trump was his closing of U.S. travel with China, which happened on Jan. 31, something the president reminds us at every briefing.

He’s right, but what he doesn’t say is he made that decision at a time the CDC was assuring us the risk to America was low, the WHO was covering for China, Democrats were trying to impeach the president, and Biden was attacking the decision as xenophobic.

It is impossible to overestimate the number of American lives saved by that momentous decision by President Trump on January 31. And no media or Pelosi false narratives or phony Biden campaign ad can change the truth about the real chronology of the coronavirus.

Cleta Mitchell, Esq. is a partner in the Washington, DC office of Foley and Lardner, LLP. She represented numerous citizens groups targeted by the Internal Revenue Service during the Obama administration.
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Re: Coronavirus Pandemic (COVID-19)

Postby brianscharp » Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:37 am

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... tries.html
Are Countries Flattening the
Curve for the Coronavirus?
The trajectory of the coronavirus pandemic varies widely from country to country. The number of new cases each day appears to be falling in some nations — what’s known as flattening the curve.
Take Italy, for example, where the number of new cases appears to be leveling off, most likely because of the country’s strict lockdown efforts. But the death toll continues to climb, and health officials say the country has not yet reached its peak.

China, where the pandemic began, appears to have drastically reduced both the number of new cases and new deaths. But it’s possible that the country is vastly understating its coronavirus totals.

And in the United States, the number of new confirmed cases is still multiplying rapidly, as some states continue to resist the most stringent measures.

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Re: Coronavirus Pandemic (COVID-19)

Postby brianscharp » Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:29 pm


https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2020/at ... treatments
Attorney General James Orders Alex Jones to Stop Selling Fake Coronavirus Treatments
Maybe the plan was to use Micro-Particle Colloidal Silver Generator and Superblue Toothpaste.
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Re: Coronavirus Pandemic (COVID-19)

Postby brianscharp » Sun Apr 05, 2020 3:43 pm

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White House Economists Warned in 2019 a Pandemic Could Devastate America
WASHINGTON — White House economists published a study last September that warned a pandemic disease could kill a half million Americans and devastate the economy.

It went unheeded inside the administration.

In late February and early March, as the coronavirus pandemic began to spread from China to the rest of the world, President Trump’s top economic advisers played down the threat the virus posed to the U.S. economy and public health.

“I don’t think corona is as big a threat as people make it out to be,” the acting chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers, Tomas Philipson, told reporters during a Feb. 18 briefing, on the same day that more than a dozen American cruise ship passengers who had contracted the virus were evacuated home. Public health threats did not typically hurt the economy, Mr. Philipson said. He suggested the virus would not be nearly as bad as a normal flu season.

The 2019 study warned otherwise — specifically urging Americans not to conflate the risks of a typical flu and a pandemic. The existence of that warning undermines administration officials’ contentions in recent weeks that no one could have seen the virus damaging the economy as it has. The study was requested by the National Security Council, according to two people familiar with the matter.



In a best-case scenario, Ms. Scherbina concludes, a national suppression of economic activity to flatten the infection curve must last at least seven weeks. In a worst case, where the shutdown proves less effective at slowing the rate of new infections, it would be economically optimal to keep the economy shuttered for nearly eight months.
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Re: Coronavirus Pandemic (COVID-19)

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:36 pm

Italy showing a steady decline in deaths per day:

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Spain now has largest deaths per million among statistically significant populations:

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Re: Coronavirus Pandemic (COVID-19)

Postby Bill Cummings » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:04 pm

Almost every TV update on the COVID virus
I’m seeing professionals that haven’t read
the directions on how to wear their safety
masks.
Most all masks have a thin metal nose bridge
strip that MUST be pressed/bent to stop
leaks/gaps on either side of the nose.
I sent emails to the major networks at different
times: Twin Towers, Anthrax but never was the
warning broadcast.
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Re: Coronavirus Pandemic (COVID-19)

Postby Bill Cummings » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:29 pm

Here are the statistics for yesterday April 06, 2020 in New Mexico (USA).
As of April 06, 2020:
# tested 21,825
Positive 686
Recovered 133
Hospitalized 48
New 62 (25 in San Juan County)
Deaths 12
Dona Ana Co 30 (1 new)
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Re: Coronavirus Pandemic (COVID-19)

Postby brianscharp » Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:47 am

https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/08/doc ... -covid-19/
With ventilators running out, doctors say the machines are overused for Covid-19
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Re: Coronavirus Pandemic (COVID-19)

Postby brianscharp » Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:32 am

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... mic-173347
Trump Broke the Agencies That Were Supposed To Stop the Covid-19 Epidemic
The government agencies designed to protect us are riddled with vacancies and temporary officials. No wonder we’re facing a catastrophe.



https://www.fastcompany.com/90487476/se ... n-3-charts
See how the death rate from COVID-19 is slowing down, in 3 charts
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My prediction is, we'll see a prolonged duration at a higher plateau. There'll be up and down fluctuations, but a slowed decline due to an inability to use early surveillance testing and uneven policies being practiced by different states. The result will be a heaver death toll and economic impact.
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