by all comers:
Machines, formulas, teamwork, sites, reasons for use, challenges, solutions, ...
== Reasons? Start: Safety, wind vorticity visibility, helicity visibility, flow direction visibility, turbulence awareness, launch safety, landing safety,
== COTS ? Commercial-off-the-shelf tools and equipment? Professional Stage Equipment/Remote Control Bubble Machine.
== Alternatives to soap bubbles?
== Environmental questions? Biodegradable? Ranger comment? Environmentalists comment? Plant and and animal interface?
== Bubble-making volunteers in radio contact with launch officer?
== Experiences. Tips. Problems. Challenges. Solutions. Does one achieve target goals?
== Possible downsides?
== Why soap bubbles drop, pop, last only so long ... Then why do some bubbles go up ???
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Postby JoeF » Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:52 pm wrote:
billcummings wrote:
Use Mr. Bubbles or Dawn dish washing detergent and water 50/50 mix and a little Glycerin for better bubble life. Also different size hoops for different size bubbles.
http://on.aol.com/video/how-to-make-gia ... -518380561
So, longer-lasting bubble could be your suggestion for testing the possible thermal activity over the treatment vats! My toy bubbles disappear too soon and drop too soon. I'd like to follow up on your formula. Binocular study of the bubbles downwind could possibly reveal wanted data.
With your good lead, BillC, here is a lead to anothr formula
http://sciencebob.com/the-ultimate-bubble-solution/
Additionally, I am thinking of making and releasing bubbles at altitude (not from ground) from a long-tether kite-system platform. If the bubbles fall ordinarily, then perhaps no thermal. But if the bubbles rise especially noticeably, then that would be interesting. And then notice this over some intervals of time to see the constancy of flow behavior.
Would a tiny bit of the soap bubbles dropping into the vats bother the bacteria used in the treatment plant? Maybe the experiment would need to be approved by chemical engineers of the operation. What grace could the experiment give to the public besides our hang gliding wind flows?
Maybe the potential therms could be detective by other wind-reading methods.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_profiler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SODAR
Maybe a long kited line with scores of tell tales on the tether could profile what is happening. Skilled kiting to keep the line below the near tower heights will be needed.
At Sylmar at the Markus S. service on June 14, 2015, I suggested a movement to put continued energy into gaining ever better visibility of wind.
Postby billcummings » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:50 am wrote:I have always wanted to make a remote activated, 12 Volt, solar charged and battery powered bubble maker and install three units, spread out, down in front of the 7,000’ msl, cliff launch at Alamogordo, NM (USA).
Parts would come from vehicles at junk yards.
I would want three separate frequencies for remote key less entry for door locks for each of the three separate bubble making units.
Three small 12 Volt fans.
Three windshield wiper motors, with shortened wiper arms.
Three reservoirs to hold, soap, water, and Glycerin solution. (for making bubbles.)
Once a pilot with glider is on the ramp I would press the door remote button to start the door unlock mechanism.
Instead of unlocking a door it would start the windshield wiper motor that would open the lid of the reservoir and with each push of the unlock button would step the windshield wiper motor up in speeds of the intermittent wiper relay.
The shorter wiper arm would dip a wand into the reservoir solution and raise the wand up in front of the 12 volt fan and produce bubbles.
After the pilot launches I would hit the lock button on the remote(s) to turn off and save the bubble solution until the next pilot takes position on the launch ramp.
All I need is someone to get off the keyboard (other than me) and use my open source idea. Have at it or refine and simplify this concept.
[[ [ ]? Long-tether uninhabited kite system tether-based bubble making? No solution yet. Would like to release bubbles from a tether or drop line from lifter-kite system. Perhaps a wick system or gravity-feed system where liquid would arrive to pipe-cleaner ring. Then ambient wind or tether jiggle might release bubbles; or have an impeller driving air pump to get better than ambient wind flow at bubble maker. ]]