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Re: PHOENIX FOLLIES.

Postby choppergirl » Thu Sep 05, 2024 11:19 pm

Here's some more girl content off the top of my head while I would ponder an answer, but I would say the main reason more girls aren't into hang gliding... is because...
gliding and primary gliders use to be the primary most accessible stepping stone gateway into getting your feet off the ground and flying... aka 1930's... and again briefly... 1980's...

Not so much any more, there are more accessible ways to get airborne now. Now you don't need to have your butt in a cockpit to enjoy flying, you can do it via a SIM, FPV quadcopters, or RC airplanes. And now, you can't even find a primary glider or hang glider at your local airport or flying club or EAA hanger. Gliding schools are usually hidden away clics or clubs only located near or in mountain ridges and ranges or by coasts.



https://www.youtube.com/@MaiOnHigh/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@FlyingMAir

https://www.youtube.com/@DutchPilotGirl/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@CourtneyTakesFlight/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@therealonigiri/videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLsy7SRMPjk

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zWrLEwtzxoM

https://www.youtube.com/@LittleStellarFox/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@NarineMelkumjan/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@AleeshaFPV/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@TheRcSaylors/videos





I have a joke about the great primary glider bonfire the old Elmer's at EAA had to keep women out of aviation, but in reality EAA never did have much of anything in the way of primary gliders or tow planes to get women and kids interested in aviation, it was always an old boy's club of guy's that pop riveted their own airplanes together with scavenged engines. I don't even think any of the EAA clubs had a single trainer like the one I made a video about (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVvDY_V3EhM). Which is sad, because the few times I've been to our own local EAA monthly meeting micro-democracy in action, there were as many women and kids there as men. And only a few planes in the hanger owned by men tinkerers. I know they fly, they fly their buzzing ultralights over my house in the afternoons sometimes and I'm 13 miles away.

https://www.youtube.com/@BernardsHistory/videos

My Crazy friend Greg in Tempe, Arizona did nothing for years but build Primary Gliders and Bargain Basement ultralights... from plans.. the guy has insane building energy... yet had never covered or flown one. I suspect he has no friends to tow him aloft even if he did. I introduced him into FPV quadcopters a few years ago, and he's been zooming around his local neighborhood ever since happy as a lark, sitting on the ground in his front yard wearing ungainly ghetto setup of FPV goggles and controller he's hodge podged modified together. He doesn't even have a computer, he's managed to configure it all with his smart phone... which blows my mind at the tenacity he had to get airborne hell or highwater.

Computer SIMulator setups, Primary Gliders, and Rogollo hang gliders - why aren't they at every EAA club? Lack of funds, or lack of interest? Probably both. You would think every 3rd or 5th EAA club should at least have a TOW plane. (Spot the Volmer Jensen 11 Chanute style box kite biplane tail in there) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imAKYa_pzw8

I've seen Menonite chickas in their doiley hats and dresses at air shows... Menonite (think Amish) chickas of all things... take one of those on a discovery flight, that would be a hoot. They rarely get out of the house only to go grocery shopping or to church and are sick I'm sure of poetry class.

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Re: PHOENIX FOLLIES.

Postby Chris McKeon » Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:09 am

Well regarding Women and Flying. I remember back when I thought I would be able to get My sister Kathleen to Fly Hang Gliders. Pilot X, John Heiney and I all felt that She Would do Fine. But Kathleen having Two Young Children that She was raising at the Time. Well, she was concerned that if She Died Hang Gliding, she would not be able to complete the process of raising Her children. It is a sad reality that Kathleen, for She is such a good Athlete. Better than being a good Athlete Kathlen has a very good Mind. My Sister pitched Me a curve Ball regarding Women early on. I thought that all Women were Mentally equipped with good Minds, and heck all women must be equipped with a Very Physical capable body, like My Sister is blessed with. But I found out that Most Women are not like My Sister.

So, Heck, what Can I say? I love My Sister Kathleen.
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Re: PHOENIX FOLLIES.

Postby Chris McKeon » Sat Sep 07, 2024 3:25 pm

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HOPPERGIRL: Both Pilot-X, and John Heiney and Myself, all think that My Sister would be a good Pilot. Flying well is after all a: Skill. Heck it was as if I had suggested that She should take up Flying Paragliders! For Her concern of getting injured, or Dying killed the deal. My Sister Kathleen has everything that She would need to Fly. Kathleen is A: Smart, physically agile and coordinated, She remains cool when under pressure. She does not tend to react to a High Pressure potentially Dangerous situation. No, she remains cool and thinks Her way out of the situation. Such as being cool thus being able to avoid an Automobile Accident. But even though She would most Likely be a Good Pilot. It did, and I doubt will ever come to be.

Where down if there is a Good place to Launch a HG so that One can: {Get High, and Go Far|, Where is a Popular place to launch, if there is a launch. Where Pilots Begin their Cross Country Flights?

Could someone post Directions to Walt's Point for Me?
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Re: PHOENIX FOLLIES.

Postby choppergirl » Thu Sep 12, 2024 4:58 am

If she's interested in it and has a passion to fly... hook your sister up with several computer simulators and a controller (a joystick and RC two stick gimbal controller) first... she can fly and crash around all around she wants safely... for free.

It's better you get the first 10,000 crashes out of your system first, before you ever set foot in an airplane, IMHO. Most men skip this step, and pay dearly for it. The first crash wipes out their homebuilt airplane, they spent 5,000 hours popping rivets in their garage to build, but never spent 2 minutes in a simulator... 5,000 hours in a sim, I still crash all the time, but then I'm always pushing myself to do something random I just feel like trying, regardless of the physics or my experience or skills.

Glider school... Too expensive for just about everybody...


The other bonus with simulators, is you find out what kind of flying you actually enjoy. For example, I always wanted a WW1 biplane. They are flashy, pretty, and colorful like a butterfly, and I'm totally a show off gangsta barnstormer. Refurbishing an old ultralight from the 1980's was just the cheapest way to get to try to bootstrap that experience. However, once I flew around in little planes in a sim, I realized how excrutiatingly boring they were. A Fokker Triplane can climb like a monkey and turn like a devil, but an FPV quadcopter with me not in the cockpit suffering the g-forces, wind, and castor oil in my face... can fly like a G.D UFO.

For an adrenaline junkie like me, I was like oh yeah baby, this is the stuff! An ultralight, paramotor, carbon fiber glider, or WW1 biplane will never do... I've tasted the rainbow, I'm not going back. I never touched my antique ultralight projects in the shop ever again after that, and they are still collecting dust and taking up space. I'm like... these are totally obsolete... except for someone, nostalgic for the past, who just wants to get their actual butt up in the air and have a looksy around and be terrified out of their mind while they do it.

So yeah, its not enough to just get up in the air, it's more important to find out what style of flying you enjoy actually. Me, for example, I don't fly in the air, I dance. To just be up in the air is interesting, but I've done it. For others, like a flight instructor, that's enough, and riding along with me doing what I love and enjoy in my unrestricted unlimited element... would make them stick their face in a barf bag and want to get off this ride.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, if she's one who loves learning procedures, rules, regulations, and being a stickler for discipline, being a commercial airline pilot or military pilot would be the absolute other direction to go in. So when you begin, dabble your feet in everything and consider every alternative type of flying you wouldn't have considered otherwise, because what you started out flying or wanting to fly, may not be what you actually love to fly... at all.
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Re: PHOENIX FOLLIES.

Postby Chris McKeon » Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:01 am

TELLING TIME, and: TRAUMA AND DRAUMA

FLY, FLY, FLY -!

Ok, I will just come out and say it. I Chris McKeon am obsessed with Flying. Fourteen Years after when I Pounded, Flying is in the upmost thought going on in My Mind on a Given Day. I think about Flying. Should I be so obsessed with Flight? Probably not. Really, I should really never Fly again. Please take Note: I do not want to come accross as a Drama Queen. But I did indeed did the whole almost Die Deal. Heck initially a doctor who had been tending to My Near Dead, should have Died Body told MY sister that i would never be much better than vegetable Mentally, and I would never Walk again. It is strange that that Doctor never Obsessed the Root Cause of why I was in the Hospital. He had nothing to say regarding weather or not I would ever Fly again. Go Figure.


Well, I have Flown since My Pounding Myself into the Ground. No, I have not {YET FLOWN MY PREDATOR}. But I Shure do want to Fly My Beloved Predator, with its Phenomenal Sink rate. In the words of a Kaiser Docter regarding a Question regarding if I would recover, and When I would recover? His reply was simple: "Time will Tell".
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Re: PHOENIX FOLLIES.

Postby Chris McKeon » Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:25 pm

OK I would like to Someone who has had Flying experience Flying both Hang Gliders and flying Sail Planes. Please call. 925-497-1059, Please leave Your Phone Number. Thanks Chris M
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Re: PHOENIX FOLLIES.

Postby Chris McKeon » Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:12 pm

Tool - Device for My +Physical rehabilitation

OK I would like to Someone who has had Flying experience Flying both Hang Gliders and flying Sail Planes. Please call. 925-497-1059, Please leave Your Phone Number. Thanks C

Well, I had a thought regarding a product that I saw advertised on television Forty Years ago or so. It was a Backstop that You could use in order so that a Person could Play catch with His. or Herself. This Backstop might turn out to become a great way that I could use in order to rehabilitate the Left side of My Body. Big Five Sporting Goods sells them for Ninety-Nine Dollars.
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Re: PHOENIX FOLLIES.

Postby Chris McKeon » Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:41 pm

SO. chopper Girl. When I was living Down in the Nay area Town of Brentwood. i had two flights Flying a Two Seat Grobe Sailplane. I now living up here in Cazadero Sonoma County.

I believe that I will be able to continue learning three Axis Control Flight over at Willams. I really do not know how much performance a Grobe Sailplane had. But needless to say, I was quite impressed.

Good By Chris M 935-497-1059.

One MORE thing; get High and go far.
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Re: PHOENIX FOLLIES.

Postby Chris McKeon » Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:39 pm

I am in a situation here where I Ponder the Question Yes, I spend an inordinate amount time thinking about {FLYING|. What will I Fly next? When will My Next Flight take Place? Will I ever Fly My Beloved Predator again? Fly, Fly, Fly! It is always the same thoughts. I mean I am obsessed with Flying. I fully realize that a sane, rations Person would just never Fly again. But if I did not Fly again. I could not ever become known as: {The PHOENIX GUY in the Sky}
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Re: PHOENIX FOLLIES.

Postby Chris McKeon » Sun Sep 29, 2024 10:38 am

"I get High with a little Help from My Friend John"

Well today is indeed Sunday: The Flight that changed My Flying in such a dramatic, Body crushing event, Occurred also on a Sunday Fourteen Years ago. I mean that Flight was a True: {GAME CHANGER} . I am so ready for a Day, a Flight that will be a Game Changer in the Positive.

Anyways, I so look forward to next Month. For John will be driving up here. John will help Me achieve a reprieve from this Gravity Secured Penitentiary that We all exist in.
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