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Re: Mark G. Forbes: USHPA Liar .. Peer to Peer Indictments

Postby Free » Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:12 pm

SamKellner wrote:Who's Millenium is he talking about here, Warren?


No one's contacted me so it might be that other guy that has one.

I think you are poking a stick at a hornet's nest Sam, and I appreciate it!

The real discussion here is the lack of character in Mark Forbes.
First he refuses to lift a finger to correct a problem with a corrupt u$hga (at the time) corporation, doing business under the badge and banner of u$hga.
Second he lies about it afterward on the old yahoo list AFTER u$hga President JZ, who was given the dictatorial keys to said social list, banned me from replying to the lies of u$hga Treasure, Mark G. Forbes.

It was tweedle dee and tweedle dumb of who was responsible for the near financial collapse of u$hga, doing the censorship and the lies to cover it up.
I was asking questions. Mark Forbes tries to lie about a software system fiasco and it was all swept under the rug. Jayne Depanfilis came in as Executive and stopped the financial plunder. JZ hated her and it showed. He left and the money situation corrected with the influx of PG money.

Mark G. Forbes is a lying scumbag that didn't do what he should have done. He chose to protect a corrupt hg business then, just like he and the lawyer that cleaned up/covered up the misspent money, chose to do with the corrupt Torrey Pines business operator.

If someone really looked at all the books u$hPa would be all over.
They may be done anyway.

Sam, give Rodie a call and see what he has for sale. Want some professional video editing software? Rodie used to sell it on ebay from the University where he works. I guess some of my tax money is involved so tell him I sent you for a good deal. I don't have his number but I think he still works at UMKC, in the video editing department. https://www.umkc.edu/ He can help sell my Mill and I 'll help market UMKC video software.

Mill 4 sale. $50,000 for Rodie.
All others inquire.
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Re: Mark G. Forbes: USHPA Liar .. Peer to Peer Indictments

Postby Free » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:23 pm

Sam, still no one has contacted me about buying the Mill, so it must have been some other guy that had one for sale.
Or maybe you talked to him and know more than I do?

It's been two weeks since I suggested Blindrodie was stealing expensive software from his (my tax supported) employer, and selling it on ebay.
There was a thread on Oz Report about expensive video editing software and Blindrodie volunteered he was in that business. And he was.
At the time I found his ebay account and he had sold at least two software versions worth over ten thousand dollars for less than two thousand total.
Great deal for the buyers as they noted in their feedback ratings.
I don't believe Blindrodie was authorized to sell this stuff even if it was somehow surplus.
Even if he convened an illegal corporate meeting and everyone present voted to steal the property of another, or a business, or a University, and convert the proceeds to themselves.
I could be wrong, I suppose.
This would be the time and place for Rodie to set the record straight but he didn't do that when I called him a thief for stealing a Dragonfly.
I'm really not expecting a confession or explanation forthcoming.
Should we just let this go or what do you think ought to happen, Sam?
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Re: Mark G. Forbes: USHPA Liar .. Peer to Peer Indictments

Postby JoeF » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:16 pm

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Re: Mark G. Forbes: USHPA Liar .. Peer to Peer Indictments

Postby SamKellner » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:19 am

Free wrote:I think you are poking a stick at a hornet's nest Sam, and I appreciate it!


How did I miss your first reply till now? :?

Anyway.... You are exactly correct Warren. :D I only vaguely remembered you had a Mill. I was wondering how Gaar would go about making a buck off the sale. :twisted:
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Re: Mark G. Forbes: USHPA Liar .. Peer to Peer Indictments

Postby Free » Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:45 pm



Mark Forbes, is still a H3 after 25 or 30 years?
He claimed to have a private pilot's license way back when I asked about his admission of giving passenger rides in a heavy trike that he had just bought.
This was after U$hPa got caught with their pants down with the illegal towing exemption for flight park$. He should have known by then you couldn't do that without a PPL but maybe he was still confused about Part 103 and the fake U$hPa towing waiver.

Mark Forbes should get all the credit for any ratings he has earned but I know him to be a liar. Was he lying then?
I would like to know for sure.
Anybody know if MGF actually ever had a PPL with a weight shift endorsement?
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Re: Mark G. Forbes: USHPA Liar .. Peer to Peer Indictments

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:53 am

Just today (Dec 11 2018, 6:04:58 am) Mark Forbes told another unchallenged lie here:

     http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57809

Mark Forbes (with my emphasis) wrote:The EC meets monthly by phone, to review the financials, get an update on projects and make any decisions that can't be put off until the next full meeting of the BOD, or which are so trivial that there's no dissent. The agenda for the meeting is distributed to all of the directors beforehand, and they are invited to attend ...


Liar. When I was Director I tried to attend USHPA's secret Executive Committee (EC) meetings and my request was refused.

Once again Mark Forbes demonstrates the fish rotting from its head. I'd challenge him on the Oz Forum, but Davis keeps out anyone who's willing to speak up. That's why access to the "doppleganger" sites is important. Mark Forbes and the other Directors know they're important and that's why they post there. They reward Davis and Jack for keeping them clear of any dissenters. That's also why USHPA doesn't host its own forum. They would have a much harder time justifying kicking USHPA members out of that forum than Jack or Davis do. It's an entire ecosystem of corruption.
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Re: Mark G. Forbes: USHPA Liar .. Peer to Peer Indictments

Postby Free » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:44 pm

Mark Forbes says its ludicrous to say that u$hPa "smeared" Bob in any way.
Mark Forbes, the guy that actually got voted out as Director before the borg pulled a fast one and created a new position for him. (because he knows where all the bodies are buried.
Mark Forbes, who nearly bankrupted the borg, along with Jim Zeisit. (before he went senile)
Mark Forbes, who is the step and fetch it for the corporate lawyer who is presently trying to seize total dictatorial control of a 2 million dollar corporation as it starts to slip under the waves.
Mark ludicrous Forbes... that guy.

http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 90e0736fc3

As for He Who Must Not Be Named… It was his own actions that brought about his expulsion. The members of his own region threw him out of office, and that effort started the day that the election results were made public. Members were aghast that he'd been elected to represent them, by virtue of collaring unsuspecting newbies at a flight park entrance and getting them to vote for him. When people don't bother to vote, sometimes they get an unexpected outcome.

If you take deliberate actions which harm USHPA and cost the membership a bunch of money, for your own selfish reasons, you may reasonably expect to face some disciplinary action. If your response to that is to double-down on defiance and derision of the elected board, you might expect that body to be less than sympathetic to your cause. To claim that HWMNBN was "smeared" or expelled from USHPA for his opinion about voting procedures is ludicrous. MGF
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Re: Mark G. Forbes: USHPA Liar .. Peer to Peer Indictments

Postby Bob Kuczewski » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:29 am

Free wrote:Mark Forbes says its ludicrous to say that u$hPa "smeared" Bob in any way.
Mark Forbes, the guy that actually got voted out as Director before the borg pulled a fast one and created a new position for him. ...

Good observations Free!!

They emailed their "charges" against me to all members (about 10,000) and yet they refused to similarly send out my point-by-point rebuttal to each of those charges. How could that be a "smear"?   :lol:

Here's the latest video propaganda by USHPA's James Bradley trying to explain the monstrosity he's created in the new U$HPA Board proposal.



You'll notice that they've still got a "special" place for Mark Forbes to be on the Board regardless of how the members in his region vote.

By the way ... does this topic qualify as a "wall of shame"? If so, it's a good one!!   :thumbup:
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Re: Mark G. Forbes: USHPA Liar .. Peer to Peer Indictments

Postby Bill Cummings » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:56 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5cc0tNDNT0



James Bradley, Chair of USHPA Strategic Planning Committee, is the architect of the new governance proposal.

I see it as a diversified, PC, gerrymandered, regional map that leans heavily in the direction of equality of outcome at the expense of equality of opportunity.

WE ARE NOT ALL EQUAL!
I lack the IQ to do something as important as a regional director.
At 5’ 6” (Used to be 5’ 7”) I never had what it took to start on an NBA sports team.
At 185 lbs (Should be 160 lbs) I never had what it took to be a line backer on a sports team.
The rules of the different games, size of players, and height of the hoops required attributes
that someone other than Bill C. had to offer. I had to make myself shine elsewhere, according to my abilities.

Other things come into play like the phrase, Market Driven.
Early hang gliding manufacturers drove women from the sport with nothing small enough that the average size woman could use.

We have PG, HG, Speed gliding and what did I miss? We have men and women in this sport
but Jame’s diversity plan excludes transgender, gay, lesbian, also women trapped in male bodies that are lesbian and therefore prefer females. What did I miss? New York law would inspire a lawsuit on this obviously discriminatory proposal.

This all just to say that some people are more qualified (greater than the norm.) to do different things.
Once you try to gerrymander the lines for equality of outcome you end up with a less qualified directors and impede equality of opportunity for those more qualified.

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Re: Mark G. Forbes: USHPA Liar .. Peer to Peer Indictments

Postby Free » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:42 pm

By the way ... does this topic qualify as a "wall of shame"? If so, it's a good one!!   :thumbup:

Its exactly what it is.
Like John Borton wrote a couple days ago on Logan's public land use thread in Jack's living room coffee shop, "name em and shame em".

John Borton was Jack Axaopolous' big brother hg flying mentor.
They were very close.
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