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What language do you speak?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:02 pm
by Bill Cummings
Does anybody speak this language?
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Re: What language do you speak?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:16 pm
by wingspan33
Where's that come from Bill? It's best to have the whole text of the policy's(?) wording rather than just a single amending paragraph.

Re: What language do you speak?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:48 pm
by Bill Cummings
wingspan33 wrote:Where's that come from Bill? It's best to have the whole text of the policy's(?) wording rather than just a single amending paragraph.

That's what I was thinking earlier when I copied it but that was all I could find.

Re: What language do you speak?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:24 pm
by wingspan33
So, you just found that scrap of paper on the ground somewhere? If I had the time I'd take down some of the text and enter it into a internet search engine. Doing so may lead you to the text of the "complete" policy.

Re: What language do you speak?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:42 am
by Bill Cummings
wingspan33 wrote:So, you just found that scrap of paper on the ground somewhere? If I had the time I'd take down some of the text and enter it into a internet search engine. Doing so may lead you to the text of the "complete" policy.

I'll try that. I was up late at U$hPA, and at Sam's TX site trying to figure where I captured that. No luck so far.
I'm going over to Alamogordo and up Dry Canyon today with Robin Hastings and John Theoret because the forecast is looking good.

I'll try again later. But I hate legalese gobble de gook. Why can't they just come out and say, "Yup we're stripping more coverage from your insurance. - thought you were being screwed before --well check this out!"

Re: What language do you speak?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:26 am
by wingspan33
Bill, here's the text of your screen captured(?) image -

Insurance Policy X wrote:THIS ENDORSEMENT CHANGES THE POLICY. PLEASE READ IT CAREFULLY.

NON-MOTORIZED ULTRALIGHT EXCLUSION

This endorsement modifies insurance provided under the following:
Commercial General Liability Coverage Form

Form CG 00 01 12 04, Section I - Coverages, Coverage A, Bodily Injury And
Property Damage Liability, Section 2. Exclusions, subsection g. is hereby amended by
adding the following language immediately following subpart (5) thereof:

"or;
(6) Any non-motorized ultralight vehicle (as defined by FAR 103) owned or used
by or rented to an insured, even while that non-motorized ultralight vehicle
is being launched by tow from an auto, or watercraft that is not insured under
this policy. The term "aircraft" as used in this exclusion shall continue to
apply to any non-motorized ultralight vehicle while it is using a "Propulsive Device".


I'll simplify the language as best I can.

Newly excluded from your insurance coverage is the following:

(6) Any hang glider owned or used by the insured party, even while that hang glider
is being towed into the air by a car or boat that is not insured under this policy.

The term aircraft, as used here, will still apply to any hang glider while it is using a device that
causes it to move/launch/fly (such as a vehicle that causes the hang glider to move/launch/fly)
.


Does that help clear things up? I think my version is close enough to the point they are trying to make.

Clearly, it would also be good to know to which insurance policy this amendment is meant to be attached.

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Re: What language do you speak?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:54 am
by Bill Cummings
wingspan33 wrote:Bill, here's the text of your screen captured(?) image -

Insurance Policy X wrote:THIS ENDORSEMENT CHANGES THE POLICY. PLEASE READ IT CAREFULLY.

NON-MOTORIZED ULTRALIGHT EXCLUSION

This endorsement modifies insurance provided under the following:
Commercial General Liability Coverage Form

Form CG 00 01 12 04, Section I - Coverages, Coverage A, Bodily Injury And
Property Damage Liability, Section 2. Exclusions, subsection g. is hereby amended by
adding the following language immediately following subpart (5) thereof:

"or;
(6) Any non-motorized ultralight vehicle (as defined by FAR 103) owned or used
by or rented to an insured, even while that non-motorized ultralight vehicle
is being launched by tow from an auto, or watercraft that is not insured under
this policy. The term "aircraft" as used in this exclusion shall continue to
apply to any non-motorized ultralight vehicle while it is using a "Propulsive Device".


I'll simplify the language as best I can.

Newly excluded from your insurance coverage is the following:

(6) Any hang glider owned or used by the insured party, even while that hang glider
is being towed into the air by a car or boat that is not insured under this policy.

The term aircraft, as used here, will still apply to any hang glider while it is using a device that
causes it to move/launch/fly (such as a vehicle that causes the hang glider to move/launch/fly)
.


Does that help clear things up? I think my version is close enough to the point they are trying to make.

Clearly, it would also be good to know to which insurance policy this amendment is meant to be attached.

.

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Yes that does seem to say that. I still can't find my way back to it. Next time I'll also copy the address link with the capture.
Until I or someone stumbles across the complete obfuscation I'll go with your ----deciphering ---we can just keep our fingers crossed for good luck.