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More FAA Tandem Violations by PG Pilots

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:10 pm
by wingspan33
These kinds of STUNTS will KILL the USHPA's FAA Tandem Exemption - for PGs AND HGs!

This incident was even "published" by Go-Pro!

(FAA violating) Primary Tandem Pilot - Jon Malmberg

(FAA violating) 2nd "Tandem" pilot - Travis Potter

(FAA violating) BASE jumper - Matthias Giraud

Site - Columbia River Gorge, USA

Time - This last October 2014

Documenting Links -

https://vimeo.com/116172515

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IwxPAPJ1yE#t=240

http://www.rightthisminute.com/video/ep ... Delashmutt

Re: More FAA Tandem Violations by PG Pilots

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:13 pm
by Rick Masters
These kinds of STUNTS will KILL the USHPA's FAA Tandem Exemption

...and YOU will be blamed for it!

Re: More FAA Tandem Violations by PG Pilots

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:38 pm
by wingspan33
Hmmmmmm . . .

I, as one of tens of thousands of GoPro "Featured Video of The Week" viewers, am going to be blamed for it? Not sure how that works. :eh: ( ? ? ? )

I suppose my insignificant post here could be the basis for a "Kill the Messenger" type of backlash. :shh: :shifty:


RickMasters wrote:
These kinds of STUNTS will KILL the USHPA's FAA Tandem Exemption

...and YOU will be blamed for it!

Re: More FAA Tandem Violations by PG Pilots

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:10 pm
by Bob Kuczewski
I haven't viewed all the links, but blame belongs with the people doing the violating ... not the people reporting it.

That's not saying that the people doing the violating won't try to divert attention from their misdeeds by blaming others. But I certainly won't be buying it.

Re: More FAA Tandem Violations by PG Pilots

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:33 pm
by wingspan33
Bob,

So you know, all the links are similar copies of the SAME act. The [edit] middle! link has the most detail and ends with titles showing the names of the participants. Now that was REAL smart!

And Rick,

If a "Kill the Messenger" philosophy is part of the deal, then "Guilt by Association" will probably also be put in force. That means I will be blamed, you will be blamed and, of COURSE Bob will be blamed! . . :? . . :shock: . . :wtf:

:srofl:

Re: More FAA Tandem Violations by PG Pilots

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:04 pm
by SamKellner
wingspan33 wrote:These kinds of STUNTS will KILL the USHPA's FAA Tandem Exemption - for PGs AND HGs!


Does the FAA Tandem Exemption belong to U$hPa? That exemption should be extended to other HG Assns. as well. :idea:

If gaining liability insurance is #1 on the list.........
#2 might be securing these FAA exemptions

:wave:

Re: More FAA Tandem Violations by PG Pilots

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:15 pm
by Bob Kuczewski
SamKellner wrote:Does the FAA Tandem Exemption belong to U$hPa? That exemption should be extended to other HG Assns. as well. :idea:

If gaining liability insurance is #1 on the list.........
#2 might be securing these FAA exemptions

Actually, it might be easier to get our own FAA exemption than getting insurance. Insurance is based on numbers and profit. The FAA exemption is based on responsible use of a privilege. We could apply for an FAA tandem exemption at any time. It just takes filling out some some fairly straightforward paperwork.

Maybe this is a good time to start setting up a committee of tandem pilots to look into this.

Re: More FAA Tandem Violations by PG Pilots

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:46 pm
by wingspan33
We'll have to look into this. The sticky point would probably involve the "administration" of the exemption. The FAA would surely want to know the awarded organization can "enforce" the rules. :think:

Re: More FAA Tandem Violations by PG Pilots

PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:03 pm
by Rick Masters
Tandem PG deaths investigated in Australia
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/death ... 2tzmt.html

Highest level lawsuit filed with Brazillian government to ban all commercial tandem flights
http://ndonline.com.br/florianopolis/no ... rasil.html