[dhmartens]

https://trademarks.justia.com/771/56/us ... 56581.html

Serial Number 77156581
https://tsdr.uspto.gov/ (enter serial number to check all litigation)

http://www.tmweb.com/trademark_classes.asp

Class 35 Advertising, Business Consulting
Class 36 Insurance, Financial


Maybe they have hid 036 to stay under States Radar for insurance regulation and consumer protection?

[Rick Masters]

        Trademark this.

[dhmartens]

I've searched almost every document on the tsdr system and the word "insurance" does not appear anywhere. This looks to be a material misrepresentation to the US Federal Government Trademark office.


also on the insurance side:


http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/cr ... -Fraud.htm

Insurance companies can also commit fraud by improperly denying a policy holder or health care provider a benefit that is due.

The ushpa hearing will deny BobK insurance and this too is fraud.

[Bill Cummings]

I've searched almost every document on the tsdr system and the word "insurance" does not appear anywhere. This looks to be a material misrepresentation to the US Federal Government Trademark office.


also on the insurance side:


http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/cr ... -Fraud.htm

Insurance companies can also commit fraud by improperly denying a policy holder or health care provider a benefit that is due.

The ushpa hearing will deny BobK insurance and this too is fraud.

Dhmartens,
“Insurance companies can also commit fraud by improperly denying a policy holder or health care provider a benefit that is due.”

“The ushpa hearing will deny BobK insurance and this too is fraud.”

Correct. Somewhere here on the Hawks or maybe a PM to Bob.K I brought up this issue from personal first hand knowledge.

My fathers car insurance premium took a big jump automatically when I turned old enough to possess a drivers permit.

My father made his insurance agent provide an exclusion form to exclude me from his vehicles as a driver.

This knocked back the premium to where it had been.

The Minnesota State Insurance Inspector shortly arrived at our home (Actually two people.) They were investigating why someone was being denied insurance.

The insurance industry gets really upset when anyone stands in the way of their profit income flow.

The insurance industry will do your legal work for you if someone improperly blocks your insurability. I learned this 50 years ago first hand.

[Rick Masters]

Maybe a hang gliding club (or NATIONAL HANG GLIDING ASSOCIATION*) will seek an exclusion for parachutists and their insurance rates will go down.
Way down...
That could be a really attractive draw.

* hint, hint...

Sometimes I ask myself, why did paragliding stay in the USHGA longer than ultralights, who left under pressure from hang gliding purists? I think the answer lies in the fact that insurance remained cheaper for the less-controllable and more dangerous paragliders as the years went by and their accident rates dramatically surpassed hang gliders. As this happened, paragliding became a kind of Trojan Horse within the USHPA. The accident numbers really didn't start to appear until the early-middle 2000s, when US paragliders started moving inland, and the insurance people had to play catch-up with this new development. Then taking over the association solidified their gains to the detriment of hang gliding. Look at your costs of membership now. What gives? Somebody's making out like a bandit.

Of course, insurance is for primarily for public liability, so paragliders slaughtering themselves in thermal turbulence is of no particular concern to insurers. But this really complicates the perception of safety within and outside the sport. Worse, people who witness the massive injuries common in paragliding accidents can sue the association for PTSD. Hang glider pilots subsidize that. And worse (again), they don't complain or form an alternative organization, and just stoically take the punches as their sport fades away.

I don't get it.

It would be better, IMO, for the two sports to split up and insure their sites separately. I mean, they don't even compete against each other so just what is the real reason they are joined at the hip?